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John Collins

Detroit Pistons · F · #20

PHI @ DET · Tomorrow 7:00 PM
OverUnder11.5
Over 11.5 Points, typical price −1344 sportsbooks · consensus lineUpdated

What's different tonight

Over 11.5 · facts from past games, not a pick

  • TonightTeammate out

    Jalen Duren: Out (hamstring)

    Over 11.5 without him: 1 of 5; with him: 1 of 2 (7 games as teammates)

  • TonightDefense vs forwards

    PHI allow 33.6 points a game to forwards: 29th most of 30

    8 games

  • New team

    7 games with DET; before that, LAC

    Over 11.5 with DET: 2 of 7; his last 10 games before: 7 of 10

  • Minutes

    Last 5: 24.8 min · 2025–26: 27.1 (69 games)

Game log against Over 11.5

20%1 of 5L20 · Without Duren

Over 11.5 Points cleared in 1 of 5 games without Jalen Duren (his last 20 games).

  1. at NO, 2026-03-18: 18, cleared, 24 min (not counted)
  2. at NO, 2026-03-19: 18, cleared, 28 min (not counted)
  3. at DAL, 2026-03-21: 8, missed, 29 min (not counted)
  4. vs TOR, 2026-03-25: 0, missed, 22 min (not counted)
  5. at IND, 2026-03-27: 5, missed, 20 min (not counted)
  6. at MIL, 2026-03-29: 22, cleared, 35 min (not counted)
  7. vs POR, 2026-03-31: 17, cleared, 31 min (not counted)
  8. vs SA, 2026-04-02: 15, cleared, 25 min (not counted)
  9. at SAC, 2026-04-05: 25, cleared, 24 min (not counted)
  10. vs DAL, 2026-04-07: 12, cleared, 28 min (not counted)
  11. vs OKC, 2026-04-08: 12, cleared, 27 min (not counted)
  12. at POR, 2026-04-10: 0, missed, 13 min (not counted)
  13. vs GS, 2026-04-12: 18, cleared, 21 min (not counted)
  14. vs BOS, 2026-10-20: 6, missed, 25 min (not counted)
  15. at MIA, 2026-10-23: 23, cleared, 29 min (not counted)
  16. at PHI, 2026-10-25: 16, cleared, 34 min
  17. at NY, 2026-10-27: 2, missed, 27 min
  18. vs CHA, 2026-10-28: 4, missed, 18 min
  19. at BKN, 2026-10-30: 4, missed, 26 min
  20. at CHA, 2026-11-02: 4, missed, 19 min
ClearedMissedThe 11.5 lineMinutes

Count only

Over 11.5 · L20

With or without

Over 11.5 · L20

  • Cade CunninghamG

  • Jalen DurenCOut

  • Duncan RobinsonF

The three teammates who use the most possessions a game (shots, free throws, turnovers) among those playing 15+ minutes, over their last 20 games, then anyone else in the rotation ruled out tonight. Only games they were teammates on the Pistons count; “without” is a game he didn't play.

Last vs PHI

Points: 16 in 34 min, Oct 25 (away)

Over 11.5 hit in 4 of 5 games against PHI on record

L20 · Without Duren · Over 11.5

Average
6
−5.5 vs line
Median
4
−7.5 vs line
Hit rate
20%
1 of 5
Price implies
57%
at −134
Books’ fair
53%
margin removed
Minutes
24.8
5 games · 27.1 in 2025–26

Research, not a pick. We have no number of our own on this line yet; the market makes the Over 11.5 53%.

Lines posted now

Over hits, L20 · Without Duren
Every line posted now: the typical price on each side and how many sportsbooks price it.
LineOverUnderL20
−30001 book—1/5
−2454 books—1/5
−1344 books+1003 books1/5
+1283 books—1/5
+1901 book—1/5
+2053 books—1/5
+7501 book—0/5
Compare 4 sportsbooks and 3 pick'em apps at 11.5
Each sportsbook's price for the Over and the Under 11.5 Points, with when we read it; the best current price is marked.
Sportsbook · readOver 11.5Under 11.5
FanDuel5 min ago−130Best−102
Bally Bet6 min ago−134—
betPARX7 min ago−134+100Best
BetRivers7 min ago−134+100Best
PrizePickspick'em, posted nowLine posted, no price
Sleeperpick'em, posted nowLine posted, no price
Underdogpick'em, posted nowLine posted, no price

Prices as of 1:34 PM ET. The page leads with the Over's typical price; these are each sportsbook's own.

The consensus line

11.5

Over No move since first seen

John Collins's full game log and splits