John Collins

Detroit Pistons · F · #20

PHI @ DET · Today 7:00 PM

Over Under11.5

Over 11.5 Points, typical price −1276 sportsbooks · consensus lineUpdated

What's different today

Over 11.5 · facts from past games, not a pick

TodayTeammate out
Jalen Duren: Out (hamstring)
Over 11.5 without him: 1 of 5; with him: 1 of 2 (7 games as teammates)
TodayDefense vs forwards
PHI allow 33.6 points a game to forwards: 29th most of 30
8 games
New team
7 games with DET; before that, LAC
Over 11.5 with DET: 2 of 7; his last 10 games before: 7 of 10
Minutes
Last 5: 24.8 min · 2025–26: 27.1 (69 games)

20%1 of 5L20 · Without Duren

Over 11.5 Points cleared in 1 of 5 games without Jalen Duren (his last 20 games).

at NO, 2026-03-18: 18, cleared, 24 min (not counted)
at NO, 2026-03-19: 18, cleared, 28 min (not counted)
at DAL, 2026-03-21: 8, missed, 29 min (not counted)
vs TOR, 2026-03-25: 0, missed, 22 min (not counted)
at IND, 2026-03-27: 5, missed, 20 min (not counted)
at MIL, 2026-03-29: 22, cleared, 35 min (not counted)
vs POR, 2026-03-31: 17, cleared, 31 min (not counted)
vs SA, 2026-04-02: 15, cleared, 25 min (not counted)
at SAC, 2026-04-05: 25, cleared, 24 min (not counted)
vs DAL, 2026-04-07: 12, cleared, 28 min (not counted)
vs OKC, 2026-04-08: 12, cleared, 27 min (not counted)
at POR, 2026-04-10: 0, missed, 13 min (not counted)
vs GS, 2026-04-12: 18, cleared, 21 min (not counted)
vs BOS, 2026-10-20: 6, missed, 25 min (not counted)
at MIA, 2026-10-23: 23, cleared, 29 min (not counted)
at PHI, 2026-10-25: 16, cleared, 34 min
at NY, 2026-10-27: 2, missed, 27 min
vs CHA, 2026-10-28: 4, missed, 18 min
at BKN, 2026-10-30: 4, missed, 26 min
at CHA, 2026-11-02: 4, missed, 19 min

ClearedMissedThe 11.5 linehis 2026–27 minutes

Splits

Over 11.5 · L20 · counts, not in order

Tap a split to count only its games. Research from past games, not a pick.

With or without

Over 11.5 · L20

Cade CunninghamG
Jalen DurenCOut
Duncan RobinsonF

The three teammates who use the most possessions a game (shots, free throws, turnovers) among those playing 15+ minutes, over their last 20 games, then anyone else in the rotation ruled out today. Only games they were teammates on the Pistons count; “without” is a game he didn't play.

Last vs PHI

Points: 16 in 34 min, Oct 25 (away)

Over 11.5 hit in 4 of 5 games against PHI on record

L20 · Without Duren · Over 11.5

Average: 6; −5.5 vs line
Median: 4; −7.5 vs line
Hit rate: 20%; 1 of 5
Price implies: 56%; at −127
Books’ fair: 52%; margin removed
Minutes: 24.8; 5 games · 27.1 in 2025–26

Research, not a pick. We have no number of our own on this line yet; the market makes the Over 11.5 52%.

Lines posted now

Over hits, L20 · Without Duren

Every line posted now: the typical price on each side and how many sportsbooks price it.
Over	Under	L20
−4481 book	—	1/5
−2306 books	+1851 book	1/5
−1801 book	+1351 book	1/5
−1276 books	−1015 books	1/5
+1001 book	−1301 book	1/5
+1404 books	−1701 book	1/5
+1773 books	−2301 book	1/5

Compare 6 sportsbooks and 3 pick'em apps at 11.5

Each sportsbook's price for the Over and the Under 11.5 Points, with when we read it; the best current price is marked.
Sportsbook · read	Over 11.5	Under 11.5
Bally Bet6 min ago	−124Best	—
betPARX4 min ago	−124Best	−108
BetRivers4 min ago	−125	−109
DraftKings6 min ago	−127	−101
Bovada6 min ago	−130	+100Best
FanDuel2 min ago	−132	+100Best
PrizePickspick'em, posted now	Line posted, no price
Sleeperpick'em, posted now	Line posted, no price
Underdogpick'em, posted now	Line posted, no price

Prices as of 3:23 AM ET. The page leads with the Over's typical price; these are each sportsbook's own.

The consensus line

11.5

Over: −129 → −127 since first seen

John Collins's full game log and splits